Kyro2 is Old – Very Old • Kyro2 is ‘beefed up’ Kyro designed in 1997 •
designed for DX6 – not DX8
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only 2xAGP
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no HW T&L
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no TwinView dual TV out option
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“designed by committee with unproven record” • •
Videologic design team (best effort PowerVR) SGS Thompson manufacturing •
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Poor record with complex design (6x86, Transputer)
Guillemot board design •
Never made their own boards before
NVIDIA CONFIDENTIAL
Guillemot has no experience designing graphics boards! Our prerelease card is actually made on a PCB based on that of the GeForce2 GTS and will most likely be shrunk by the time the product hits shelves. - Anandtech Review on Kyro2 Guillemot had to hack an NVIDIA design to get Kyro2 to work! All NVIDIA based Guillemot boards are designed by NVIDIA and released to them for distribution.
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The SharkyExtreme Review Unfortunately, the KYRO II offers no T&L support or any semblance of support for the features introduced by DirectX 8… …the lack of DirectX support raises our concerns about the shelf life of such a product. - Sharky Extreme Review on the Kyro2
*Note: We have had some difficulty in getting the 3D Prophet 4500 to work properly on our Intel-based platforms. However, we are working with Hercules to resolve this issue, and will be updating the preview when this problem is resolved. - Sharky Extreme Review on the Kyro2
We did have an issue with Evolva, where the scene would render under Windows 2000, but no textures were applied to the models. After modifying all of the available compatibility options, we determined this must be a driver bug. - Sharky Extreme Review on the Kyro2
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The SharkyExtreme Review…more Although Hercules claims that the 3D Prophet 4500 supports DXTC, it was interesting to note that both 3D Mark 2001 and 3D WinBench were unable to take advantage of these features. If they are supported, there is apparently some work to be done still. •Conclusion There are… …caveats to buying such a card. For one, the feature set is relatively dated. While STMicroelectronics claims that T&L is ready to be implemented, the KYRO II does not sport it, so future applications that make use of gratuitous polygons may be subject to slowdown as the increased number of computations could possibly bog down the tile-based system. Similarly, a lack of DirectX 8 features means upcoming applications will slow down significantly.
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Kyro2 - Unproven technology • Kyro2 still has serious flaws • Z problems and rendering errors • Alpha in game = slow performance • Dynamic textures (shadows) perform horribly • Bad compatibility on all games • Kyro2 will look and perform terrible on new games • Giants, Black & White, Doom3 • Kyro2 still broken on Mercedes Benz Truck Benchmark, just like Kyro was over a year ago! • New drivers have not fixed these problems
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Kyro2 does NOT support hardware transform and lighting – these games use it! Black & White Blademasters Colin McRea Rally II Diablo II Dragonflight Force Commander Heavy Metal F.A.K.K. 2 Incoming Forces Max Payne MDK 2 Messiah Midnight GT Oni Star Trek Voyager StarLancer Team Aligator Ultimate Bass Fishing 2000 Vampire: The Masquerade WarBirds 3.0 Title Demolition Racer Quake III Arena Shadowman Test Drive 6 X-Plane AMA Superbike Evolva Rage Rally Soldier of Fortune Supreme Snowboarding
Developer Pitbull id Software Acclaim Pitbull Laminar Research Mororsims Computer Artworks Rage Software Raven Housemarque
Lionhead Ronin Entertainment Codemasters Blizzard Grolier Interactive Ronin Entertainment Ritual Rage Software Remedy Entertainment Bioware Shiny Rage Bungie Raven Warthog Simis EAI Nihilistic Interactive Magic
Electronic Arts Ripcord Games Codemasters Sierra Grolier Interactive Lucasarts G.o.D. Rage Software 3D Realms Interplay Interplay Rage Bungie Activision Microsoft Games GT Electronic Arts Activision Interactive Magic
This list does not include the latest games being developed for GeForce 3!
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Latest List of Games That Support Hardware Transform & Lighting
Title Battle Isle IV Ice Wind Dale Knights Malleus No One Lives Forever Panzer Elite (Expansion Pack) Paradox Shadow Company 2 Soldier Test Drive Cycles Typhoon American McGee's Alice Bloodline Call of Cthulu Conquest Drakkan 2 Dreamland Chronicles Experience Ferrari Freelancer Giants Halo
Developer Blue Byte Software Interplay Digital Infinity Insidia Monolith Entertainment S.S.I. Creative Asylum Sinister Games Sinister Games Infogrames Rage Software Electronic Arts Auran Adventuresoft Digital Anvil Surreal Mythos The Whole Experience Acclaim Digital Anvil Planet Moon Bungie
Publisher Interplay N/A Monolith Entertainment Psygnosis N/A Sinister Games Sinister Games Infogrames Rage Software Electronic Arts Electronic Arts Hasbro Microsoft Games Psygnosis Virgin N/A Acclaim Microsoft Games Interplay Bungie
Title Loose Cannon Never Winter Nights Oddworld 3 Pool of Radiance Sacrifice Star Wars: Obi Wan Stonekeep 2 Tecnomancer The Settlers IV The World is Not Enough Ultima Online 2 Yager Magic and Mayhem Rock MotoCross Madness 2 Nightfall Return to Castle Wolfenstein Steel Whisper Terminator 3D Titanium Angels Tribes 2 Werewolf: the Apocalypse
Developer Digital Anvil Bioware Oddworld Inhabitants Mattel Interactive Shiny Lucasarts Interplay Qube Blue Byte Software Electronic Arts Origin Yager Charybdis Single Trac Rainbow Studios Altor Sys Grey Matter Interactive Orange Games Orange Games SCI Dynamix Dreamforge
Publisher Microsoft Games Interplay GT Mattel Interactive Interplay Lucasarts Interplay Virgin Electronic Arts Electronic Arts Virgin Infogrames Microsoft Games Activision N/A N/A Sierra A.S.C. Games
NVIDIA supports the XBox and employs a large team of software development engineers
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Anandtech Review • Supplied 175 MHz boards to reviewers, spec’d to run at 166MHz (source SGS Thompson) “concern lies with the display errors we experienced in Mercedes-Benz Truck Racing… ….it is possible that other games may be effected by the improper rendering”.
- buying Kyro2 is a risk. - from an unproven ‘committee’
NVIDIA CONFIDENTIAL
Kyro2 Picture Quality… In this picture right, one can see tire tracks that should clearly be behind the truck.
Source: Anandtech Review
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Kyro2 Picture Quality… The second picture shows brake lights, which once again should not be visible in the rendered scene, coming through the front of the truck. Source: Anandtech Review
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Conclusion • • • • • •
GeForce 2 MX is cheaper… …and more fully featured GeForce 2 has a brand name GeForce 2 has proven drivers GeForce 2 is available now Developers working on NVIDIA GPU’s, not Kyro
Buying Kyro2 is a risk – and when cards and PCs get returned it damages your finances and your reputation. NVIDIA CONFIDENTIAL
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