Goals • explore the current ideas on what SimDAL must/should do to allow discovery and access all theoretical data • discuss which part of the SimDM could be registered • discuss the specific way TAP could be implemented in SimDAL and which tables has to be provided
• Talks/Discussions: • Hervé Wozniak: review of current ideas on SimDAL and SimDB • David Languignon: SimDAL • Discussion
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SIMDAL / SIMDB
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Wozniak / Obs. Astron. Strasbourg Strasbourg H. Sep 2010 slightly updated after Nara INTEROP Dec2010 4
Wozniak / Obs. Astron. Strasbourg An extreme H.case without SimDB
medata synchro
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SimDM subset 1 RegExt
SimDM
VO Registry
Which part(s) of Protocol=X AND TAP service REST service SimDM SimDAL AND in not compliant with use cases webapps? RegExt (eg Find all SPH simulations with galaxy mass between REQUEST=? 109 and 1010 Msun)? define strong use cases Table/columns definition?
TAP in SimDAL proposals • create one SimTAP schema per Protocol (G. Lemson, Nara Dec’10) • each schema contains tables: 1 Experiment, 1 Product (OutputDataset) + … • differences in colums needs many SimTAP schema let their definition outside SimDAL spec? • how to standardize SimTAP schemas alone ? • specify 4 tables in TAP_SCHEMA.tables (Experiment + OutputDataset
+ 2 tables for mappings) allowing to discover almost 80% of use cases (D. Languignon, this meeting) • which ones are mandatory ? • TAP_SCHEMA.colums not specified apart from protocol_did, experiment_did • can we forget the remaining 20%?
• one SimDAL by Protocol, full TAP implentation + 2 (or more)
mandatory Tables (names fixed by SimDAL : Experiments, OutputDatasets) • But a Project may contain several instances of Protocol
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ISSUES WITH VO REGISTRY
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Issues • How much of SimDM in Registries (via RegExt)? • Are Registry clients able to make complex queries • No SimDB proposal • Yes in case of SKOSConcepts use in Registries?
• SimDM/resource seems mandatory
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Issues • How much of SimDM in
Registries (via RegExt)? • Part of SimDM/protocol • Protocol = OK? • What about Physics and
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